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    Amazon Music rolls out a lossless streaming tier that Spotify and Apple can’t match
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    RIP Tidal?

    By Dieter Bohn@backlon Sep 17, 2019, 9:00am EDTShare this on Facebook (opens in new window)
    [​IMG]Illustration by Alex Castro / The Verge
    Amazon is launching a new tier of its music service today, dubbed Amazon Music HD. It offers lossless versions of audio files for streaming or downloading at a price that aggressively undercuts Tidal, the main competition for this kind of audio. Amazon will charge $14.99 a month for the HD tier, or $12.99 if you’re an Amazon Prime customer. Tidal’s Hi-Fi plan costs $19.99 monthly. The new plan was rumored a few months ago.

    Amazon says it has a catalog of over 50 million songs that it calls “High Definition,” which is the term it’s applying to songs with CD-quality bit depth of 16 bits and a 44.1kHz sample rate. It also has “millions” (read: less than 10 million, more than one million) of songs it’s calling “Ultra HD,” which translates to 24-bit with sample rates that range from 44.1kHz up to 192kHz. Amazon Music HD will deliver them all in the lossless FLAC file format, instead of the MQA format that Tidal uses.

    Amazon’s VP of Music, Steve Boom, tells me that Amazon chose the HD and UltraHD terminology because it found it was more comprehensible to a mass audience than the current terminology for audio quality. And “mass audience” is exactly what Amazon is going for; it doesn’t want Amazon Music HD to be a niche player like Tidal and other lossless music platforms like HDtracks or Qobuz.

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    The new, not very complicated Amazon Music HD logo
    Boom says that “It’s a pretty big deal that one of the big three global streaming services is doing this — we’re the first one.” Amazon Music isn’t often in the conversation about music streaming competition, which usually ends up following a Spotify vs. Apple Music narrative. But Amazon considers itself in their company, and with the new HD offering it’s looking to differentiate itself and perhaps raise its profile.

    Boom declined to give new subscriber numbers, but Amazon’s music service did reportedly have more than 32 million subscribers as of this past April. Spotify hit 100 million paid subscribers that same month. But remember that millions of people have access to a sampling of Amazon’s catalog through Prime Music, which comes included for free with a Prime subscription. That’s a powerful tool for getting them to step up to an Amazon Music Unlimited or Amazon Music HD plan.

    Giving users a specific reason to switch to Amazon Music, beyond working slightly better with Echo speakers, could give Amazon a boost. Right now Spotify is sort of the global default and Apple has been aggressive at making carrier deals in the US to boost its numbers. But even if Amazon can’t peel off subscribers from those services, it seems likely that it’ll pull some users — perhaps many — away from Tidal, though that’s not exactly a big pool to draw from.

    Spotify has at times tested lossless audio but has yet to officially launch a plan for all customers. Apple, meanwhile, is doing everything it can to extract the most quality from the AAC format it uses, but has always stopped short of going in on lossless. If it finds success, Amazon’s latest move could give both companies another push to come up with something similar. Lossless demands a lot more bandwidth, however, and some listeners might struggle to tell a difference between it and the “high” quality setting streaming apps currently offer.

    Rock legend Neil Young, who has for years extolled the benefits of high-res music (remember Pono?), really took the hyperbole up to 11 in reacting to today’s news. “Earth will be changed forever when Amazon introduces high quality streaming to the masses,” he said in Amazon’s press release. “This will be the biggest thing to happen in music since the introduction of digital audio 40 years ago.”

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    I got a brief demo of the service yesterday and of course it sounded amazing — anything would in the Hi-Fi setup Amazon had in its San Francisco office. Audiophiles with similar setups will be able to take advantage of Amazon’s service with the right DAC attached to their phone. And if you’ve got one of LG’s smartphones with a built-in DAC, this is another instance where that hardware will pay off.

    Amazon says that its HD service will be compatible with products from “Denon and Marantz with HEOS Built-in, Polk Audio, Definitive Technology, Sonos, McIntosh, Sennheiser, and many more.” Of course, you also aren’t likely to hear a big different on most Echo speakers — especially earlier models and Echo Dots. Boom says that most recent models have a line-out, though.

    When you’re playing an HD or UltraHD song, you can tap on the HD logo to bring up a screen that provides more details about the actual quality of that stream or file. Amazon will dynamically reduce quality if you’re on a low bandwidth connection. You will definitely hear the difference on both iPhones and Android phones, but since they max out at 24-bit/44.1kHz quality on their built-in DACs, you won’t get the very best quality without an external DAC. Plus, if you’re using Bluetooth you’re unlikely to hear the difference, Boom says.

    The service is launching today and Amazon is offering a 90-day free trial. It will be available in the US, UK, Germany, and Japan.
     
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  3. \Alex\Clover

    \Alex\Clover Pa??w%rd:


    Desde 4 Set 2012
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    Tentei pegar os 90 dias pela minha conta americana, mas barraram meu cartão de crédito.
     
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    quem tem Heos ( receivers marantz e Denon ) fazendo o cadastro pelo Heos americano estão conseguindo. @VARodrigues@VARodrigues conseguiu e já testou
     
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  5. VARodrigues

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    Fala, grande @maesta@maesta!

    Eu não consegui testar muito ainda por aqui, por isso não trouxe comentários relevantes, mas pelo pouco que (ou)vi tem tudo para dominar o streaming de áudio. Como dito, matou o Tidal logo de saída e se o Spotify não se mexer, vai acabar ficando só com os "assinantes gratuitos" também.

    Quero testar ainda "em trânsito" para perceber como está implementado o buffer em caso de queda momentânea de conexão (como passar por um túnel no metrô, etc), que o Spotify faz isso excepcionalmente bem, já o Tidal é péssimo!

    Abs!
     
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  6. juliosouza

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    Eu acho que pra matar o Tidal, vai precisar ter suporte nativo nos streamers de alto nível, tais como Aurender, Lumin, Naim etc.

    Os serviços que oferecem audio HD só tem ganho real observado em sistemas mais ajustados, tanto que o Spotify não lançou o serviço HD por se concentrar no público que utiliza o serviço "on the go" (aplicativos de celular, carros, etc.)

    Tenho curiosidade pra testar o Amazon HD, mas pra trocar de plataforma, só tendo suporte mesmo.
     
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    Os receivers Denon e Marantz com Heos já tem suporte nativo. Esse q @VARodrigues@VARodrigues testou.
     
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    Então, eu me referi ao público alvo do Tidal. Aurender, Lumin, Naim, Sinmaudio, Wadia...
     
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    Então é q pra mim Tidal é no meu receiver e pra quem usa Roon , não sabia qual era exato o público alvo do tidal.
     
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  10. juliosouza

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    Cara, desculpe, me expressei mal. Não é que seja restrito, mas o Tidal investiu em audio HD e pegou uma fatia do mercado de alto padrão, o Hi End do streaming music. O Tidal não é concorrente do apple music nem do Spotify (na minha visão). Concorre com o QoBuz. Se a amazon quiser entrar nessa briga, tem que arrumar suporte nativo nos aparelhos Hi End, entende?
     
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  11. Paulo5832

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    O Tidal vem sendo morto desde que foi lançado e segue firme, enquanto não tiver suporte nos Cambridge sigo fora, espero que disponibilizem o suporte.
     
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  12. maesta

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    Sim Claro e acho q ela já providenciou isso. Veja, no nível intermediário, mas q já se faz notar a diferença, como o Heos, ontem mesmo todos foram atualizados e já contavam com o Amazon music hd. Creio q nos streamers de alto padrão e no Roon vai ser o mesmo. Esses caras da Amazon não brincam, eles poe fogo no parquinho.
     
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  13. juliosouza

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    https://tidal.com/cambridgeaudio
     
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  14. VARodrigues

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    Eu acredito que eles (Amazon) vão atacar esse campo também e firmar parcerias com esses outros fabricantes, já que basicamente é implementar o app, pois capacidade de reproduzir arquivos FLAC todos esses dispositivos já possuem. Diferente do Tidal que exige a implementação do MQA.

    O Tidal, sem o público eventual, que não é esse que tem os aparelhos hi-end, não sei se consegue se sustentar.

    Como farão? Aumentar ainda mais o valor da mensalidade, sendo já o mais caro entre as opções mais conhecidas?

    Foi mais nesse intuito que eu quis dizer que ele morreu.
     
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  15. Ricardo Leão

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    Está disponível no Brasil?

    Ricardo.
     
  16. VARodrigues

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    Ricardo, eu consegui ativar, mas acho que acabou vinculado à minha conta dos EUA.

    Enfim, está funcionando aqui.
     
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  17. VARodrigues

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    Fora outra coisa em relação ao Tidal, pelo menos aqui quando eu usava, que bosta de recomendações que ele fazia? Um monte de música de funk, sertanejo, pop...

    O app da Amazon por enquanto está muito melhor nas recomendações.

    Alguns prints:
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  18. Ciambelli

    Ciambelli Ciclista amador e apaixonado por áudio e vídeo!

    Pelo app ainda não está disponível a compra (n)
     
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    Amazon Music Goes High-Rez
    Jason Victor Serinus | Sep 17, 2019


    Amazon Music has introduced a CD-quality (confusingly called “HD” by Amazon)-plus-hi-rez (which Amazon calls “Ultra HD” so as (not) to confuse the masses) music tier at $14.99/month ($12.99 for Prime members). That price undercuts Tidal and Qobuz the two subscription streaming services most popular among audiophiles: Tidal charges $19.99/month for the tier that includes MQA, and Qobuz costs $24.99 for its Studio tier, the cheapest plan offering high-definition streaming. Amazon HD offers some 50 million songs in 16/44.1 FLAC format, with millions claimed available in hi-rez, up to 24/192 FLAC. Tidal claims a somewhat larger number of total tracks—56 million—with an unknown number in MQA. France-based Qobuz says it has about 40 million tracks online, including about 170,000 high resolution albums or some 2 million tracks.

    The Financial Times, in a story posted July 10, estimated that Amazon's music services have 32 million subscribers altogether. Tidal claimed just 3 million subscribers in 2016; it isn't clear whether the needle has moved much since then. Qobuz, which entered the U.S. market just seven months ago and has said that it isn't competing with "the big guys,", reported on 15 August that it had 25,000 U.S. subscribers and some 200,000 subscribers in all its markets. In a press release issued earlier today, Qobuz welcomed Amazon to high-resolution streaming.

    The entry of Amazon into the high-rez streaming market impacts manufacturers of music-related hardware; several audio brands, including McIntosh, Sonus Faber, Paradigm, MartinLogan, and Sennheiser, were described in the Amazon press release as offering "compatible ... third-party devices." Others will likely sign on. Music server software provider Roon, which has already integrated Tidal and Qobuz into its software, remained tight-lipped about their plans—if any—for integrating the Amazon service.

    Rock icon Neil Young was not so reticent. "Earth will be changed forever when Amazon introduces high quality streaming to the masses,” he said, quoted in the company's press release. “This will be the biggest thing to happen in music since the introduction of digital audio 40 years ago.”

    We'll see.


    Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/amazon-music-goes-high-rez#opkj2HmkjlGpciIG.99
     
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    BluOS Is One of First to Integrate Amazon Music HD
    SV Staff | Sep 19, 2019


    Amazon Music HD streaming service.
    Amazon customers in the U.S. can access the new service on BluOS-enabled gear from NAD Electronics, Bluesound, and DALI Loudspeakers.

    “We are proud to have been approached and chosen by Amazon to be among the first streaming platforms integrated with Amazon Music HD,” said BluOS product manager Andrew Haines. “And we are particularly proud to support the highest resolution UHD service tier, as the Amazon catalog is extensive and gives our audiophile audience a broad selection of the highest quality music available.”

    Announced Tuesday, Amazon’s new Amazon Music HD streaming tier provides access to than 50 million songs in “High Definition” CD quality with a bit depth of 16 bits and a sample rate of 44.1kHz plus “millions” of songs in “Ultra HD” with a bit depth of 24 bits and a sample rate up to 192 kHz.

    Current Amazon Music subscribers can try Amazon Music HD at no additional cost for 90 days and Amazon is offering a free 90-day trial to new subscribers. A subscription costs $12.99/month for Prime members, $14.99/month for Amazon customers, or an additional $5/month for those who already subscribe to Amazon Music’s Individual or Family Plan.

    For more on Amazon Music HD, visit amazon.com.

    For more on BluOS, visit bluos.net.


    Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/content/bluos-one-first-integrate-amazon-music-hd#fsYDW4EKP2mARQo5.99
     
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