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Noise Harvester - limpa a energia elétrica mesmo

Discussão em 'Energia, Alimentação e Aterramento' iniciada por fibra, 5 Mar 2007.

  1. fibra

    fibra Áudio & Vídeo com Inteligência


    Desde 2 Ago 2005
    Campinas - SP/Brazil
  2. mario fernandes

    mario fernandes siervo del Dios Altísimo


    Desde 20 Jan 2003
    Paraguay
    Cocretamente, quais foram as melhorías que voce observou...? :)
     
  3. fibra

    fibra Áudio & Vídeo com Inteligência


    Desde 2 Ago 2005
    Campinas - SP/Brazil
    Mario,
    eu recebí esta dica de um colega audiófilo aquí de Campinas - SP e fiquei impressionado com a melhora nos sistema estéreo dele. Então outro colega (também audiófilo e de Campinas) passou a utilizar e obteve melhoras. Então, resolví investir.

    Resultados concretos:
    1 - a imagem da TV fica sem qualquer ruído !
    2 - os agudos do estéreo melhoram consideravelmente ! Não sei explicar, ficam suaves.

    Abraço.
     
  4. ÉdisonCh

    ÉdisonCh Usuário


    Desde 1 Dez 2005
    Araras/SP/BR
    Fibra,

    Meu Windows M.Player e o BS Player, não sei porque, abrem os vídeos apenas com som, sem imagem.

    Esse aparelho a gente coloca em paralelo com o aparelho, na rede que ele vai filtrar?

    Já tive, da PS Audio o Ultimate Outlet e o achava muito bom. Portanto, talvez seja realmente uma boa para colocar em paralelo ao projetor.

    Se você pudesse dar mais esclarecimentos, por favor.

    Grato.

    Édison
     
  5. Byrd

    Byrd by Cassini


    Desde 22 Abr 2005
    São Paulo
    Vi o vídeo, li o texto, mas surgiu a dúvida: colocá-lo em qualquer tomada da sala ou quarto do HT?

    E se a fiação de energia for trazida diretamente do painel de comando para as tomadas que alimentam os equipos? Libera-se uma das entradas das mesmas tomadas, para plugar esse dispositivo?

    Abraço,

    Byrd
     
  6. Som_de_Pedreiro

    Som_de_Pedreiro Hard Setentoso


    Desde 20 Mai 2005
    Sao Paulo
    Parece bem legal pelo video.:aplauso:
    MAs fiquei com as mesmas duvidas dos colegas acima.
    Alem disso, dá pra achar por aqui ou só indo buscar ?

    []s
    Alexandre
     
  7. fibra

    fibra Áudio & Vídeo com Inteligência


    Desde 2 Ago 2005
    Campinas - SP/Brazil
    Olá pessoal.

    Coloquei 1 unidade do Noise Harvester numa toma da parede antes da minha regua HT800 e a outra unidade na própria regua. De todos os testes e tentativas erros/acertos foi assim que obtive os melhores resultados.

    O som (agudos) fica mais límpido, extendido, macio, suave. Difícil descrever. O NH não gerou nenhuma compressão no audio. A imagem da TV (uma CRT) ficou melhor, sem sinais de qq ruído (mesmo ligando máquina de lavar, liquidificador e etc - que por sinal estão em outra fase da elétrica - mas antes gerava pequeno ruído). As cores da TV ficaram mais bonitas, imagens mais limpas e parece que há uma sensação de profundidade.

    Gostei. :aplauso: :aplauso: :aplauso: :aplauso: :aplauso:

    O interessante é que o NH mostra quais equipos geram sugeira na rede. Por exemplo: eu tenho um backlight atrás da TV (tipo TV Ambilight). É uma luz fluorescente (cf tópico deste fórum). Jamais imaginei que esta lâmpada gerasse tanta sugeira na rede. A TV ligada tb gera sugeira na rede, o que interfere na audição em estéreo.

    Eu trouxe direto dos USA (via um amigo audiófilo), mas deve haver alguma forma de buscar, talvez via SKYBOX.

    Abraços.
     
  8. piupa

    piupa Divemaster


    Desde 12 Ago 2004
    são paulo/sp/brasil
    No site, postado pelo Fibra, se "clicar" no How to Buy aparece a Gramophone, como representante no Brasil.

    Gramaphone EletronicaAv. Pacaembu, 1109 PacaembuSao Paulo, Brazil 01234-00155 11 3663-5859gramophone@uol.com.br
    Quem sabe eles tenham, ou aceitem pedidos (y)

    Abraço,
    Adilson.
     
  9. mario fernandes

    mario fernandes siervo del Dios Altísimo


    Desde 20 Jan 2003
    Paraguay
  10. fibra

    fibra Áudio & Vídeo com Inteligência


    Desde 2 Ago 2005
    Campinas - SP/Brazil
    Mas, vejam o depoimento deste cara aquí que interessante:


    See post # 360:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=675386

    Originally Posted by mrtybalt

    My Noise Harvesters arrived late last week. Prior to setting them up I tried plugging them in to several environments to see if it actually picked up noise rather than just generating a random lighting pattern. Here are my findings:

    Work: My office is located in an industrial area. Some of the facilities near the office include a cabinet shop (large saws, tools, etc), auto repair shop and various other industrial / small manufacturing companies.

    Results: The first Noise Harvester immediately began blinking. Although it is tough to determine how many blinks per minute I was getting I would estimate the average was somewhere between 50-80. Adding additional harvesters resulted in slowing the blinking significantly. With 5 in place on a power strip I noticed the first unit had slowed in blinking to 15-25, all of the others were blinking at about the same level.

    Home: My house is a typically suburban home. I'm not sure how many people are on my transformer but I can see it out my back door. The next one is about 4 houses down the road. The house is less than 6 months old and the oldest home in the neighborhood is 2 years. All infrastructure in the area has been placed in the past 5 years.

    Results: The first harvester was more like the 5 harvesters in my office. Blinking around 20 blinks per minute. Adding more resulted in a similar drop, with all five I was less than 10 blinks per minute on the first harvester (all other similar). This first test was done Friday around noon when few of my neighbors are home. Still early enough in the day that the AC was not kicking on. Later when my AC kicked on I noticed a big spike in the number of blinks. When the AC would "ramp up" these little guys went nuts. Unfortunately I wasn't able to count the blinks but damn did it go crazy!

    Condo: This is a rental unit I own and am currently prepping for new tenants. There are 15 other units in the same building, and I assume all are sharing the same transformer. There are 20 other buildings with the same number of units in the complex. Complex built in the early 80's.

    Results: The first harvester went nuts. Blinking so fast that I can't determine the number of blinks per minute. Adding more harvesters may have slightly slowed down the blinking, but still too fast to count!

    Home Listening Results: To begin I removed my Power Plant P600 to get a baseline with standard wall power. Listened with absolutely no power conditioning [​IMG]I forgot how much worse system sounds without the Power Plant. I then set up the 5 Harvesters on a cheapo Home Depot power strip (also using one of these to power the system without P600). This made a decent difference in the sound. I primarily noticed my less edge or grain associated with CD and SACD with the harvesters than with nothing. Transcendent attacks and dynamics passages remain quick and powerful.

    I then decided to keep the 5 harvesters in the strip and use them in conjunction with my P600. I should note that I spoke with PS Audio and they expected subtle differences, and told me not to expect a huge improvement on anything plugged into the P600 since it regenerates the AC power. After some very critical listening and many switched to P600 alone and back I was able to discern some very subtle differences. At this point I was unsure if I was experiencing a psychological difference or a truly perceivable difference. I then asked my wife to perform a blind A-B test with and without the Harvesters. My initial thoughts were confirmed as each time I chose the Harvester as the best sounding. I would like to consider myself a bit of an audiophile, but I find it rather difficult to explain the difference in sound other than it is more engaging and lifelike.

    Side Note: While I was performing the test my wife was watching TV on our bedroom LCD TV. Although my wife knew I was playing with a new toy in the theater she had no idea what I was doing. About halfway through the testing she came down and asked me if I had been messing with the cable TV feed. I asked her why she said that she noticed that the picture seemed “extra crisp” at times but would then “lose focus”. I explained what I was doing and asked her to plug in the harvesters while I was watching the TV. Wow, this was not exactly a subtle difference! The harvesters all the way in the basement theater were totally changing the TV on the 3rd floor. I guess PS was right when they said you can put it anywhere in your house.

    Bottom Line: If you are interested in a low cost way to improve an already high-end system I recommend 5 Noise Harvesters everyday and twice on Sunday! The harvester works as advertised. I’m not an electrical engineer, nor do I have any lab type tools to verify how it is or how much it is working. I tested solely on my senses which I find to be the only testing device of concern regarding my personal enjoyment. The $399 investment pales in comparison to what I have spent on cables, components and tweaks. Paul and the others at PS should be proud of their accomplishments. [​IMG]

    Hopefully Paul will come back and answer some questions for those doubting his claims. Once he does this hopefully those that can't rely on their own perception will decide to buy a harvester. If you are on the fence I suggest you try them for yourself, if you spend more time listening to your system than posting here I would bet that you'll hear the difference.


     
  11. Byrd

    Byrd by Cassini


    Desde 22 Abr 2005
    São Paulo
    E cita-se também, algo como um concorrente, da AudioPrism, o QuietLine: 1 unidade por cerca de $30, 8 unidades por $215 (lá fora!).

    http://www.audioprism.com/

    Há até um detector de sujeiras: Noise Sniffer, um verdadeiro sabujo eletrônico.
     
  12. marcosm

    marcosm Usuário


    Desde 2 Nov 2002
    São Paulo - SP
  13. Dmaumau

    Dmaumau Moving Forward


    Desde 9 Out 2002
    Campinas / Sampa
    No mínimo curioso ;)
     
  14. Abcoon

    Abcoon Gatil Abcoon , Abissínios

    Sem querer desmerecer o topico e o aparelho mais e que o trem e digno das organizações TABAJARA ainda mais que custa só U$100,00 aquela caixinha , fora que deve usar o mesmo principio daquela seita que os membros dizem se alimentar somete de luz.:lol: :ataque: :rofl:

    Desculpas não aguentei.(y)
     
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  15. ÉdisonCh

    ÉdisonCh Usuário


    Desde 1 Dez 2005
    Araras/SP/BR
    Desculpe, não agüentei.

    Abraço,

    Édison

     
  16. Desotti

    Desotti Say hello to my little friend!


    Desde 11 Ago 2002
    80's Miami...
    A PS Audio é reconhecida no mercado de audio justamente por não costumar "dar ponto sem nó"... como disse o Mau, no mínimo curioso. ;)

    [[]]'s
     
  17. Audionet-01

    Audionet-01 Usuário


    Desde 26 Nov 2005
    SP
    Marcos,

    Quando comecei a ler o topico pensei imediatamente neste produto...

    Sergio
     
  18. fibra

    fibra Áudio & Vídeo com Inteligência


    Desde 2 Ago 2005
    Campinas - SP/Brazil
    Pessoal,
    para quem tiver interesse no Noise Harvester, a Liquidsound (loja do Dennis) será representante da Gramophone.

    Provavelmente, ele possa comercializar este produto aos interessados.(y)

    Abraços.
     
  19. silx

    silx .


    Desde 11 Jan 2005
    Brasília
    Qual o preço do brinquedo?!
     
  20. fibra

    fibra Áudio & Vídeo com Inteligência


    Desde 2 Ago 2005
    Campinas - SP/Brazil
    Eu paguei US$ 99,00 cada unidade, mas lá !:concordo:
     
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